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đââď¸ Surfline forecasts suckânow what? đ¤¨
Plus: Hawaiian surfboards. The surf directory wonât change how you surf. Do not rent a wetsuit. âNo sharksâ news.

đ Happy Anniversary! Did you know itâs been a year since we sent out âa sneak peek at The Wipeout Weeklyâ? Whaaaat. A year?!
No better way to celebrate than to just keep going. We give you: the All Things Surf Directory. Itâs live! Itâs getting bigger every week! Itâs #1 on Google! đ And how we use itâwell, thatâs completely up to us.
đââď¸ Letâs surf:
Surfline sucksânow what? đ¤¨
You canât afford a âHawaiian Surfboardâ
All Things Surf Directory won't change the way you surf, but⌠đ
Stumbling into surfing at 39 đđťââď¸
Don't listen to this if you rent a wetsuit đ¤˘
âNo sharksâ surf news roundup đď¸
SURFODRAMA
đą Surfline forecasts suckânow what? đ¤¨

Surfline sucks. Surf-lies. Bring back Magicseaweed! How much?!
We surfers feel very strongly about this number one surf forecasting app. Yet, it perseveres.
But is it, perhaps, just about time for Surfline to be over?
Not yet. Even though, apparently, it got worse.
Surfline has been around since the 1990s. If you surf, you most likely use it. It gives you swell and surf height, the time interval between waves, tide, wind, wave energy, and more.
I have been a Premium user for years, and I forgot how simplified and unhelpful the free option actually isâfor beginners, or for tracking the forecast during a specific day. The interface is designed to infuriate you into upgrading.
The upgrade would still be worth a pretty penny if only, you guessed it, Surfline got it right.
đ The accuracy problem
Throughout the years, surfers have complained about the app and the inaccuracy of its forecasts.
For some, Surfline overestimates wave height. For othersâit undercalls it.
They lament the loss of human observers and checkers. They complain about Surfline getting fundamental data wrong, even buoy data such as water temperature.
We get it. Surf forecasting is hard. The ocean is a layered, chaotic system driven by wind thousands of miles away, underwater bathymetry that shifts over time, tides, sandbars, local wind quirks, and micro-geography. But, but, butâŚ
đŻ The illusion of precision
Most surfers donât read swell charts first. We look at one thing and one thing only: wave height and conditions.
Surfline assigns a size and a rating to breaks around the world, packaging complexity into digestible, pretty numbers and colors. It feels precise. It feels personalized. It feels right.
But increasingly, itâs not.
đ¤ LOTUS, AI, and averaging the ocean
Since Surfline integrated its AI-driven LOTUS model, forecasts at many breaks have become wildly inconsistent.
Traditional forecasting blends physics-based models (how swells move through space) with local observation and interpretation. AI-heavy models, if over-reliant on historical pattern recognition, can average out reality instead of capturing whatâs happening right now.
Alexander R. Stine, a professor of earth and planetary science at San Francisco State University, criticized the shift toward purely AI models:
âYou are throwing away everything we know about physics when you do that,â he said. âThereâs quite a bit of data cooked into the fact that we know the equations of motion⌠Youâd probably do better with just actually doing the calculation.â
And the ocean doesnât like being averaged.
đşď¸ Local still matters
Another recurring complaint: Surfline presents regional data as if itâs hyper-local. Two spots separated by a headland can behave completely differently under the same swell and wind conditions. A sheltered cove may be clean. A nearby exposed beach may be blown out.
Local knowledge still matters. But, as we all know, humans cost more than robots.
đ Whereâs the transparency?
Adding insult to injury, thereâs little transparency. Forecast wrong? Thereâs no historical comparison tool showing what was predicted versus what actually happened.
If youâre lucky enough to live close to the beach, you can check before you surf. Or thereâs a cam pointed at your local spot and youâre a paid userâhappy days.
But if you have to travel hours to a surf spot or youâre planning a trip in advance, you may get discouraged by the sleek interface, AI-powered cams, color updates, and increasing reliance on automation.
It starts to feel less like a surf forecasting service and more like a tech company optimizing for scale and efficiency. And itâs hard not to notice.
𧨠But what can we do?
Surfline took out its main competitorsâMagicseaweed in the UK and Coastalwatch in Australiaâa few years ago.
But new surf forecasting apps have started popping up. If they can learn from Surflineâs mistakes, we may finally get some genuine alternatives.
Hereâs what surfers are using instead today:
Surf Captain (81 reviews on the App Store)
Windy (75k reviews on the App Store)
Surf-forecast.com (760 reviews on the App Store)
And there are new global apps being built:
Swellify from New Zealandâfocus: beginner-friendly
Swell Scope from Australiaâfocus: surf journal
Are these apps better than Surfline? Probably. Possibly not. But we know that a little competition can work wonders.
Good luck to us all!
SURF THRU HISTORY
đ¤ You canât afford a âHawaiian Surfboardâ

As Iâve been ordering some second-hand surfing books, I came across a listing so ridiculously expensive that I felt we needed to talk about it. Namely: Hawaiian Surfboard.
The listing I spotted was for a $15,000 first-print edition of Hawaiian Surfboard by Tom Blake.
It is signed by Tom Blake and inscribed in the year of publication: âwith sincere appreciation of a master craftsman, from Tom Blake 1935.â
You may be forgiven for thinking the price is driven by the bookâs total one-in-existence uniquenessâbut thereâs another first-edition listing at $12,500. Itâs also signed by Tom Blake. Itâs like he couldnât stop himself from signing these books.
đ° Why is it so expensive?
Okayâbut why so much money? Whatâs with this book?
Two things. Firstâthe author. Tom Blake is widely considered one of the most influential surfers in the history of the sport. He invented the surfboard fin, the hollow surfboard, and a water-resistant camera housing for surf photographyâand he was the first person to surf Malibu.
Secondâthe book itself. Itâs considered âthe most important publication in the surfing canon,â according to Timothy DeLaVega, and described by The Surferâs Journal as a âseminal volume of surf literature [and] the sportâs single most important document.â
đŚ What makes the book special
The book is ninety-five pages long and was written by Blake in 1935. Only 500 copies were printed at the time.
Before Hawaiian Surfboard, there were surf articles and essaysâbut not a proper standalone book. According to the Encyclopedia of Surfing, itâs âpart surf history and part instruction manual.â
Hawaiian Surfboard was illustrated with nearly 50 black-and-white photos, most taken by Blake, and Duke Kahanamoku wrote the introduction. The book is divided into four sections: âAncient Hawaiian Legends of Surfriding,â âEarly Hawaiian Historical Period, Surfriding,â âModern Surfriding,â and âHow to Use the New Hollow Surfboard.â
According to the Encyclopedia of Surfing, âBlakeâs prose is dry, often clumsy, and occasionally pedantic, but he does convey the power and beauty of surfing in Hawaii.â
It sounds like this:
âThe water is so warm one is not conscious of it. The view of the palm trees on shore, the [Waikikâi] hotels, the mountains and clouds is marvelous and to me it is part of the pleasure of surfing. The hour before sunset is best of all, for then the mountains take on all the shades of green imaginable, while the clouds near them assume all shades of white and gray. Rainbows are often seen in the far-off valleys.â
In 1983, the book was reissued as Hawaiian Surfriders 1935. You can buy used copies on Amazon for under $800.
WILLY WONKAâS FACTORY OF SURF STUFFS
đŤ All Things Surf Directory wonât change the way you surf, butâŚ

The golden tickets for everybody!
When we set the rule of no promos ever of any kind whatsoever as one of the guiding principles for Girls Who Canât Surf Good on Facebookâwhich now stands at close to 86,000 membersâwe just wanted to keep the group noise-free.
But community recommendations, well, they are everything.
Thatâs the very reason we built the All Things Surf Directory.
Itâs a curated, location-based hub for surf stuffs and community listings worldwide. And weâre officially announcing it today. Finally. Enough pussyfooting.
No more missing a recommendation because you missed a post.
Never again will you need to ask a question that was already asked 400 times.
No longer do you need to join the group to benefit from its shared knowledge.
đ Surfâs the limit
Adding a listing is free. Using the directory is free. That part is simple. Weâve split the directory into three big wave categories.
Surf Listings are for any surf or surf-adjacent businessâcoaches, shops, photographers, rentals, shapers, wellness providers, surf non-profits, jobs, volunteer opportunities, and community listings in Classifieds.
The Classifieds category is for all your second-hand boards and wetsuit sales, swaps or giveaways, surf trip or ride sharing, last-minute borrow requests when traveling, lost & foundâŚ
Surf Retreats & Events are for events and experiences that take place on specific dates. Surf film festivals. Beach cleanups. Local beginner meetups.
Surf-Side Lodging is for businesses or individuals offering accommodation near surf spots.
đĄ Need some examples?
Struggling with your pop-up? There's an online workshop for that.
If you live in New York and have kids who want to learn to surf, itâs free.
Learning to surf and need surf buddies? Thereâs a meetup group for beginner and intermediate surfers in North Wales, UK.
Or you can meet up with fellow surfer girls on Redondo Beach, California in a couple of weeks.
Worried about your head? Hereâs a discount code: CANTSURF15 for your surf helmet.
Looking for a surf retreat? There are upcoming ones in Sri Lanka, El Salvador, Nicaragua, South Africa, Portugal, Spain, Canary Islands, Lombok, Siargao, AustraliaâŚ.
The possibilities are⌠you know⌠endless. And weâre only starting out.
GIRL WHO TURNED HER LIFE UPSIDE DOWN FOR SURF
đđťââď¸ When stumbling into surfing at 39 changes everything

We all know that surfing makes people do crazy things.
Learning to surf later in life can make people do absolutely insane stuff like chucking your job, moving to another country, and starting from scratchâŚ
If you needed some inspiration or perhaps reassurance that all will be well, we recommend Suzanne's story.
đ Read the full story
THE WIPEOUT WEEKLY PODCAST
đď¸ Donât listen to this if you rent a wetsuit đ¤˘

We havenât done manyâread: anyâpod interviews where we almost literally peed ourselves with laughter. Until we spoke to Lou Harris of the Black Surfing Association (East Coast), that is.
We chatted about surfing in Rockaway, New York lineup vibes, what makes it easier for kids (and adults) to learn to surf, and why you should think very, very hard about using a rental wetsuit.
đ§ Listen to The Wipeout Weekly on your fav pod platform or right here.
THE WIPEOUT WEEKLY SURF NEWS ROUNDUP
đď¸ Surfing dachshund. Angry pros. Surfers rescued.

đś Surfing dachshund rides wave in viral TikTok
A dachshund in Australia has gone viral after a TikTok video showed the small dog calmly balancing on a surfboard, with the clipâreportedly practiced first in the ownerâs poolâreaching 11 million views and counting.
đ
Olympic surf qualification changes criticized by tour surfers
World champion Yago Dora and other elite surfers have criticized the ISAâs revised qualification system for LA28, which reduces Championship Tour spots from 20 to 10 and limits tour qualifiers to one man and one woman per country.
đ Two surfers rescued after rip current in Oregon
Two surfers were rescued at Cape Kiwanda Beach after being caught in a rip current, with firefighters using a rappel system to reach one stranded near a cliff as both declined medical treatment.
ALL THINGS THE WIPEOUT WEEKLY
The Wipeout Weeklyâour home and digital magazine.
The Wee Surf Shoppeâexplore useful, cute, and sometimes simply outrageous surf âstuffsâ.
The Wipeout Weekly podcastâdaily surf stories and weekly* guests.
All Things Surf Directoryâsurf retreats, learn to surf, classifieds, surf-side lodging, you name it.
Girls Who Canât Surf Goodâan 86k-member-strong private group on Facebook.
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